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Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-13-2007, 03:31 PM
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TORONTO - The Toronto Blue Jays have agreed to terms on a contract with free-agent shortstop David Eckstein.

A source tells The Canadian Press that the one-year deal is worth US$4.5 million. It will be finalized after Eckstein passes a physical.

Eckstein spent the past three seasons with the St. Louis Cardinals. He was the 2006 World Series MVP.

Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi has long admired the way he plays.

It's likely that the 31-year-old would become the team's everyday shortstop, relegating incumbent John McDonald to a backup role.

Eckstein offers a better bat but McDonald is stronger defensively.

There have been concerns about McDonald's durability. He signed a US$3.8-million, two-year contract in September.

Eckstein batted a career-high .309 for the Cardinals last season with three homers, 31 RBIs and 10 stolen bases.
Now this is a signing that I like, finally gives the Jays a starter at the SS position that can hit the ball.




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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-13-2007, 03:33 PM

Not too bad. You guys have two World Series MVPs on your team now.
   
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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-13-2007, 03:46 PM

its a good improvement over McDonald at least




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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-13-2007, 03:47 PM

McDonald is elite defensively, Eckstein's equal, pretty much
   
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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-13-2007, 03:53 PM

Eckstein can bat lead off which the Jays hate to have for some reason, like a good SS or C. since the last true lead-off hitter was probably Ricky in 93.




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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-13-2007, 05:58 PM

I was shocked when I discovered this information. In fact, I read about this before looking at the "names" that came out on this day.

well done, J.P.


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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-13-2007, 06:47 PM

Damn all the luck. Twins wanted Eckstein or at least thats what was being talked about. To bad Smith did not get the job done. Good move for the Jays!


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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-16-2007, 01:51 PM

I like this signing!! He is a good hard-nosed player and does the little things to win.
   
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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-16-2007, 02:25 PM

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McDonald is elite defensively, Eckstein's equal, pretty much
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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-16-2007, 03:03 PM

I stand corrected about Eckstein then. McDonald's damn good though.
   
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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-16-2007, 05:14 PM

Eckstein really isn't horrible defensively but he's no McDonald with the glove. Eck makes all the plays and makes up for his lack of arm strength. People just say he's horrible because of his size. Eck in a couple of years will have to move to second.
   
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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-16-2007, 06:49 PM

Eckstein has no range and no arm strength. He doesn't "make up" for his lack of arm strength, because he's not good enough at any other aspect of the defensive game to make up for it.

People don't say he's horrible because of his size, they say he's horrible because he's not quick on a ground ball, he can't cover a lot of ground, he has a god damn noodle arm and doesn't have the strength to throw out anyone fast on a grounder to short, the guy has to put his whole body into every throw just to make sure he gets a routine play done.
   
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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-16-2007, 07:08 PM

Eck gets to the plays and has better than average defensive stats. Eck makes the plays and is extremely quick with his hands which gives him time to make up for his weak arm. He doesn't make a lot of errors and does a better job than most. Agree to disagree but I have watched Eck on a regular basis and know what he can do. He is in no way horrible on defense. Horrible on defense is Klesko in the OF, Knoblauch at second or Braun at third. He is declining if you want to go that route.
   
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Re: Jays sign shortstop David Eckstein - 12-16-2007, 07:18 PM

He may make his share of mistakes, but he is a gamer and a winner. He has won 2 W.S. rings, and if memory serves me right, he was the MVP for the Cards in their W.S. championship. He is a tough out, good base runner, he has the intangibles like some of the elite SS's in the MLB, just is not as glamourous.
   
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