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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-08-2008, 02:21 PM
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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-09-2008, 07:16 PM

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How long has Pena been in the League? Before he hit those 48 HRs, he was a fringe player that got traded by Oakland and cut by Detroit.
The man has been in the league for 7 seasons and is almost 30 years old. He's a veteran and knows this game. They also have Cliff Floyd and Troy Percival if you need a father figure. Point is they have veteran presence and don't need Bonds to ruin the environment they have.




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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-09-2008, 07:25 PM

Bonds isn't a need for Tampa Bay
   
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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-10-2008, 12:37 AM

Imagine that lineup though:

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Upton CF
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Bonds DH
Pena 1B
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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-10-2008, 05:44 PM

First off, don't compare Cliff Floyd to a father figure reef.
Second, I hope nobody's comparing Barry Bonds to a father figure either, he's not a veteran presence but a cancer. Adding Bonds takes away at-bats from the young guys who are the future of this team. They don't need him and he doesn't need them. Why would he sign with Tampa Bay?




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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-10-2008, 06:31 PM

How the hell is Bonds a cancer? Based on what? The fight between him and Kent?
   
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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-10-2008, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by browntown653 View Post
First off, don't compare Cliff Floyd to a father figure reef.
Second, I hope nobody's comparing Barry Bonds to a father figure either, he's not a veteran presence but a cancer. Adding Bonds takes away at-bats from the young guys who are the future of this team. They don't need him and he doesn't need them. Why would he sign with Tampa Bay?
We were talking about veteran presence so don't overreact.




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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-10-2008, 07:34 PM

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How the hell is Bonds a cancer? Based on what? The fight between him and Kent?
Bonds brings too much bullshit to the table. The media coverage alone is enough to rip a team apart.




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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-10-2008, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
The man has been in the league for 7 seasons and is almost 30 years old. He's a veteran and knows this game. They also have Cliff Floyd and Troy Percival if you need a father figure. Point is they have veteran presence and don't need Bonds to ruin the environment they have.
I'm not sold on Pena who's had a year that could rival Adrian Beltre's in revelance. One year wonder. Difference is he doesn't have the track record Beltre had before this walk year, well not much better.


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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-10-2008, 07:45 PM

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I'm not sold on Pena who's had a year that could rival Adrian Beltre's in revelance. One year wonder. Difference is he doesn't have the track record Beltre had before this walk year, well not much better.
You might not be sold on Pena as a 45+ homerun guy but you have to be sold that he is a veteran and their best option at first. He's been on a lot of clubs and knows this game or at least he is getting by his '07 numbers. This wouldn't be like getting Greg Maddux past his prime. Maddux actually teaches the game, Bonds doesn't.




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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-10-2008, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
You might not be sold on Pena as a 45+ homerun guy but you have to be sold that he is a veteran and their best option at first. He's been on a lot of clubs and knows this game or at least he is getting by his '07 numbers. This wouldn't be like getting Greg Maddux past his prime. Maddux actually teaches the game, Bonds doesn't.
To be fair, Bonds wasn't exactly around a young team either. In fact, weren't the Giants the oldest team in the league last season?


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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-10-2008, 10:36 PM

If they Rays were smart, I would steer clear of Bonds as far as they possibly could. They dont need that headache or distraction.
   
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Re: Why the Rays don't need Bonds - 03-11-2008, 05:09 PM

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To be fair, Bonds wasn't exactly around a young team either. In fact, weren't the Giants the oldest team in the league last season?
The Yankees were older than the Giants.




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