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View Poll Results: How do you explain Jake Peavy's shortcomings in the playoffs?
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He's not a big game pitcher.
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Small sample size. Only 3 games.
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-03-2007, 04:38 PM
Peavy did well against the Rockies this year until ..... Don't really know about Hoffman.
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-03-2007, 05:03 PM
Peavy's career ERA in Coors Canaveral ?
Hoffmans ?
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-03-2007, 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by padrefanforever
Peavy's career ERA in Coors Canaveral ?
Hoffmans ?
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Jake: 4.60
Trevor: 6.03
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-03-2007, 05:10 PM
Of course, Reefer has a point if you only focus on this year
Jake against Colorado this year before the Oct 1 game had an ERA of 1.26
Of course, up until the Oct 1 game, Jake had yet to pitch in Coors Field this year.
Don't read none of the above as any sort of excuse, just throwing the facts out there that are being questioned.
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-03-2007, 05:14 PM
Jake in Petco pitched well against them.............Jake in Coors is a different story over his career
Bring back the Chicken !!
Get'r done KT...........
2008 Predictions
-Prior ( if he proves healthy ) signs a multi-year extension in Sept. - not healthy, no contract for you
-Gerut makes team, and has a great season
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-03-2007, 05:15 PM
Originally Posted by HollywoodLeo
Jake: 4.60
Trevor: 6.03
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Not as high as I thought......but still very very high.........ballpark factors anyone ?
Bring back the Chicken !!
Get'r done KT...........
2008 Predictions
-Prior ( if he proves healthy ) signs a multi-year extension in Sept. - not healthy, no contract for you
-Gerut makes team, and has a great season
-Edmonds was a total BUST
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-04-2007, 12:29 AM
I have a question, how is it that Todd Helton hasn't won an MVP award and everyone says he's ballpark created, yet Ryan Howard wins an MVP?
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v. Sacramento State W 24-3 (1-0)
@ (25) Texas A&M L 47-45 3 OT's (1-1)
@ Oregon L 54-21 (1-2)
v. Louisiana Tech W 17-6 (2-2, 1-0)
@ Nevada W 49-41 (3-2, 2-0)
@ Idaho W 37-24 (4-2, 3-0)
v. San Jose State W 30-0 (5-2, 4-0)
v. Boise State L 34-21 (5-3, 4-1)
v. Utah State W 38-27 (6-3, 5-1)
@ Hawaii L 37-30 (6-4, 5-2)
v. Kansas State W 45-29 (7-4, 5-2)
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-04-2007, 12:37 AM
Some pretty sick pitching by Brandon Webb tonight - his breaking ball was filthy. Why couldn't Jake Peavy pitch like that on Monday? damnit.
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-04-2007, 12:45 AM
Originally Posted by FmrFresnan
I have a question, how is it that Todd Helton hasn't won an MVP award and everyone says he's ballpark created, yet Ryan Howard wins an MVP?
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1. Ryan Howard is not ballpark created, his homeruns go out in any park.
2. Ryan Howard's home/road splits last year are virtually identical.
3. When Helton was raking, Barry Bonds* was raking even more (even though Jeff Kent stole one of his MVPs).
4. The Colorado Rockies have always sucked. Thus Helton can't legitimately make a case for MVP, playing on a shitty team.
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-04-2007, 12:58 AM
The Phillies didn't make the playoffs when Howard won the MVP. ARod has won it with a bad team, so how does that argument work against Helton and not against ARod or Howard?
FRESNO STATE SCHEDULE
v. Sacramento State W 24-3 (1-0)
@ (25) Texas A&M L 47-45 3 OT's (1-1)
@ Oregon L 54-21 (1-2)
v. Louisiana Tech W 17-6 (2-2, 1-0)
@ Nevada W 49-41 (3-2, 2-0)
@ Idaho W 37-24 (4-2, 3-0)
v. San Jose State W 30-0 (5-2, 4-0)
v. Boise State L 34-21 (5-3, 4-1)
v. Utah State W 38-27 (6-3, 5-1)
@ Hawaii L 37-30 (6-4, 5-2)
v. Kansas State W 45-29 (7-4, 5-2)
@ New Mexico State
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-04-2007, 01:01 AM
IMO, A-Rod shouldn't have won it, nor should have Andre Dawson.
The award is "Most Valuable Player" not "Best Player in the League"
It's kinda hard to be the most valuable player to your team when your team doesn't accomplish much.
I think it's ok to give it to a player on a non-playoff team as long as they were in contention through, at least, mid September, but the guy better have been very crucial to his team's success up till that point.
I believe Ryan Howard deserves his award due to that very reason.
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-04-2007, 01:08 AM
Come on Hollywood, how much can 1 guy do for an entire team? The MVP is The Most Valuable Player to HIS TEAM. ARod put up HUGE numbers in Texas, it's not his fault that the rest of his teammates couldn't get it done. If ARod homered every at bat, but his pitchers gave up 7-8 runs per game, how is that his fault?
FRESNO STATE SCHEDULE
v. Sacramento State W 24-3 (1-0)
@ (25) Texas A&M L 47-45 3 OT's (1-1)
@ Oregon L 54-21 (1-2)
v. Louisiana Tech W 17-6 (2-2, 1-0)
@ Nevada W 49-41 (3-2, 2-0)
@ Idaho W 37-24 (4-2, 3-0)
v. San Jose State W 30-0 (5-2, 4-0)
v. Boise State L 34-21 (5-3, 4-1)
v. Utah State W 38-27 (6-3, 5-1)
@ Hawaii L 37-30 (6-4, 5-2)
v. Kansas State W 45-29 (7-4, 5-2)
@ New Mexico State
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Re: Peavy: not a big game pitcher? -
10-04-2007, 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by FmrFresnan
The Phillies didn't make the playoffs when Howard won the MVP. ARod has won it with a bad team, so how does that argument work against Helton and not against ARod or Howard?
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