This is a discussion on NL Cy Young within the Polls forum at Strike 3 Forums; The season is over and their has been a debate over who should win this ...
Second, I'd slap NYGF because he just seems to have it coming for him. I swear man you wouldn't last 5 minutes in California before you got your ass kicked. So I'd be doing him a service too. -hot corner gurl
[Hammer] 8:26 pm: what the hell is a weines
Then you have T-shirts or shirts that you received as a gift or you bought when you were drunk or in the mood to just buy something. Those are the Carl Pavano shirts. -Bill Simmons
Should I make another NL RoY poll with, stats, since that was rather hotly debated?
Second, I'd slap NYGF because he just seems to have it coming for him. I swear man you wouldn't last 5 minutes in California before you got your ass kicked. So I'd be doing him a service too. -hot corner gurl
[Hammer] 8:26 pm: what the hell is a weines
Then you have T-shirts or shirts that you received as a gift or you bought when you were drunk or in the mood to just buy something. Those are the Carl Pavano shirts. -Bill Simmons
If you could give me any of those years on a team, I'll take Clemens. My offense would have to be unlucky and bad to lose a lot of those games. Well, same with Carp, but I'll still take Roger.
Then out of fairness to the others you will be Slagathor.
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Single-A ERA: 7.14
10-06-2005, 05:54 PM
How low would an ERA need to be for the voters to discount the wins total since obviously ERA is a more efficent tool in measuring the effectiveness of a pitcher. We'll all find out soon enough I suppose. Does anyone know the biggest ERA difference in which a pitcher with the lower did not win the Cy Young? Someone should look into that.
1. Clemens
2. Pettitte
3. Carpenter (Although he could be flip-flopped for Pettitte, it's close.)
4. Willis
Clemens ERA is insane and someone said he is the best 6 inning pitcher and I agree. But I will take a better overall pitcher everyday of the week who can get his team the win. Maybe if he could go deeper in a game his win/loss record would be better. I will go with the better all around 8 inning pitchers with Willis or Carpenter. Randy Johnson was robbed last year by Clemens so maybe I am biased. Clemens shouldn't win for the same reason Randy didn't win.
2008 Giants > Padres
Pathetic Stat of the Year- Matt Cain has a 3.74 career ERA, but has won just 30 of his 104 starts.
I was torn between Carpenter and Clemens, but looking at the stats Clemens is just generally better. If Carpenter wins it, I won't be dissappointed at all.
Don't think for a second that the playoff performances of Carpenter and Clemens won't factor into the voters minds because they will. So far Carpenter is 1 - 0 with 6 shutout innings and Clemens has already given up 5 earned runs in 2 2/3 innings.
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