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View Poll Results: Who deserves the NL Cy Young?
Carpenter (21-5, 242.2 IP, 2.83 ERA, 1.06 WHIP, .231 AVG, 7.93 K/9) 5 26.32%
Clemens (13-8, 211.1 IP, 1.87 ERA, 1.01 WHIP, .198 AVG, 7.88 K/9) 8 42.11%
Pettitte (17-9, 222.1 IP, 2.39 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, .230 AVG, 6.92 K/9) 2 10.53%
Willis (22-10, 2.63 ERA, 1.13 WHIP, 2.43 BAA, 6.47 K/9) 4 21.05%
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NL Cy Young - 10-03-2005, 10:38 PM
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The season is over and their has been a debate over who should win this year (that thread can be found here.)

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10-03-2005, 10:50 PM

Anyone but Clemens


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10-03-2005, 10:58 PM

How awesome would it be if Pettite won.



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10-04-2005, 02:53 AM

20-game wins vulture Roy Oswalt isn't on the list? I believe the 7 earned runs he gave up to L.A. had something to do with that.

I vote for the greatest single season 6-inning starting pitcher, Clemens.


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10-04-2005, 10:15 AM

Letting Pettitte go is probably Steinbrenner's biggest mistake (among many). He noses out Carpenter for the Cy.

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10-04-2005, 08:28 PM

I went with Willis.


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10-04-2005, 08:32 PM

Should I make another NL RoY poll with, stats, since that was rather hotly debated?


Second, I'd slap NYGF because he just seems to have it coming for him. I swear man you wouldn't last 5 minutes in California before you got your ass kicked. So I'd be doing him a service too. -hot corner gurl

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10-04-2005, 09:00 PM

When this one closes in a few days, sure. Just post it in the main baseball forum and I'll move it here.

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10-05-2005, 06:35 PM

If you could give me any of those years on a team, I'll take Clemens. My offense would have to be unlucky and bad to lose a lot of those games. Well, same with Carp, but I'll still take Roger.





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10-06-2005, 12:50 AM

I'm taking Clemens as well. 1.87 ERA is insane.


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10-06-2005, 05:54 PM

How low would an ERA need to be for the voters to discount the wins total since obviously ERA is a more efficent tool in measuring the effectiveness of a pitcher. We'll all find out soon enough I suppose. Does anyone know the biggest ERA difference in which a pitcher with the lower did not win the Cy Young? Someone should look into that.

1. Clemens
2. Pettitte
3. Carpenter (Although he could be flip-flopped for Pettitte, it's close.)
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10-06-2005, 06:45 PM

Clemens ERA is insane and someone said he is the best 6 inning pitcher and I agree. But I will take a better overall pitcher everyday of the week who can get his team the win. Maybe if he could go deeper in a game his win/loss record would be better. I will go with the better all around 8 inning pitchers with Willis or Carpenter. Randy Johnson was robbed last year by Clemens so maybe I am biased. Clemens shouldn't win for the same reason Randy didn't win.




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10-06-2005, 08:18 PM

I was torn between Carpenter and Clemens, but looking at the stats Clemens is just generally better. If Carpenter wins it, I won't be dissappointed at all.
   
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10-06-2005, 10:24 PM

Don't think for a second that the playoff performances of Carpenter and Clemens won't factor into the voters minds because they will. So far Carpenter is 1 - 0 with 6 shutout innings and Clemens has already given up 5 earned runs in 2 2/3 innings.


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