Strike 3's AL MVP.....

[Fishercat]

Ichiro's a legitimate MVP candidate. On internet forums, people like myself have a tendancy to lower the value of BA, and it has a fair amount of value. Hell, his BA would be a good OBP.

Ichiro's still a beast. Don't think he's on the level of A-Rod/Mags, but still beast

[McKain]

Dan Haren should not win it over A-Rod but screw that, DAN HAREN BABY

[love_that_reefer]

Anyone who thinks Morneau didn't deserve it is fooling only themselves. But for this year, I am going with Magglio Ordonez. He is doing everything right this year and has been the backbone to that Detroit team.

[Fishercat]

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer Anyone who thinks Morneau didn't deserve it is fooling only themselves.

Player A:
BA: .347
OBP: .429
SLG: .507
Team: Playoffs (R1)
Position: Catcher

Player B:
BA: .321
OBP: .375
SLG: .559
Team: Playoffs (R1)
Position: First Base

Player C:
BA: .320
OBP: .400
SLG: .519
Team: Playoffs (WS)
Position: SS

Player D:
BA: .321
OBP: .439
SLG: .619
Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
Position: LF

Player E:
BA: .287
OBP: .413
SLG: .636
Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
Position: DH

Player F:
BA: .329
OBP: .382
SLG: .552
Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
Position: RF

Player G:
BA: .344
OBP: .417
SLG: .483
Team: Playoffs (R1)
Position: SS

Player H:
BA: .315
OBP: .385
SLG: .622
Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP)
Position: RF

Player I:
BA: .308
OBP: .439
SLG: .659
Team: Not Playoffs (-.500 WP)
Position: DH

Player J:
ERA: 2.77
IP: 234
WHIP: 1.00
Team: Playoffs (R1)
Position: SP

So, why exactly does Player B deserve it over Player A, and C-J? And if you say "because his team made the playoffs", I won't take you seriously until you admit Barry Bonds wasn't the MVP of the league in 1993, 2001, and 2004.

[love_that_reefer]

No because he lifted his team offensively and you admit that he deserved it just as much as everyone else. Bonds was a no doubter and kept his team in contention until the last week. I don't buy into the "making it into the playoffs" jive. If a guy keeps a team in contention, he is deserving too. Morneau got hot and the Twins got on his back. So shhhhhhh

[browntown653]

Originally Posted by Fishercat Player A: BA: .347 OBP: .429 SLG: .507 Team: Playoffs (R1) Position: Catcher Player B: BA: .321 OBP: .375 SLG: .559 Team: Playoffs (R1) Position: First Base Player C: BA: .320 OBP: .400 SLG: .519 Team: Playoffs (WS) Position: SS Player D: BA: .321 OBP: .439 SLG: .619 Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP) Position: LF Player E: BA: .287 OBP: .413 SLG: .636 Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP) Position: DH Player F: BA: .329 OBP: .382 SLG: .552 Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP) Position: RF Player G: BA: .344 OBP: .417 SLG: .483 Team: Playoffs (R1) Position: SS Player H: BA: .315 OBP: .385 SLG: .622 Team: Not Playoffs (+.500 WP) Position: RF Player I: BA: .308 OBP: .439 SLG: .659 Team: Not Playoffs (-.500 WP) Position: DH Player J: ERA: 2.77 IP: 234 WHIP: 1.00 Team: Playoffs (R1) Position: SP So, why exactly does Player B deserve it over Player A, and C-J? And if you say "because his team made the playoffs", I won't take you seriously until you admit Barry Bonds wasn't the MVP of the league in 1993, 2001, and 2004.

Fishercat at his finest.

[browntown653]

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer Morneau got hot and the Twins got on his back. So shhhhhhh

As well as the collective backs of Santana and Liriano and Mauer.

[Halladay_is_God]

David Ortiz imo should have won the MVP in 06, he was destroying the ball all year, but since it was clear it wasn't going to be a DH, Morneau was my pick to win the MVP, after looking at all the position players. Ortiz finishing 3rd in voting was a shame.

1B or DH, imo it barely matters, poor defensive players get stick in LF or 1B in the end. Manny can win the MVP playing shit poor defense in LF but Ortiz can't win it because of a rule allowed by Major League Baseball?

And playoffs shouldn't have matter, it didn't for A-Rod with Texas (who did deserve it), after that was the case, you have to throw that out reason.

[GiantsFanatic]

Originally Posted by Halladay_is_God David Ortiz imo should have won the MVP in 06, he was destroying the ball all year, but since it was clear it wasn't going to be a DH, Morneau was my pick to win the MVP, after looking at all the position players. Ortiz finishing 3rd in voting was a shame. 1B or DH, imo it barely matters, poor defensive players get stick in LF or 1B in the end. Manny can win the MVP playing shit poor defense in LF but Ortiz can't win it because of a rule allowed by Major League Baseball? And playoffs shouldn't have matter, it didn't for A-Rod with Texas (who did deserve it), after that was the case, you have to throw that out reason.

Exactly, if your going to use defense against guys who play DH, 1B, then you cant give the MVP to pitchers either, since they cant hit either, also they only play once every 5 games.

[love_that_reefer]

Morneau was the best player in all of baseball when the Twins made their run. Liriano was gone for two months, Mauer got the hits and Morneau drove him in. Even Mauer said he was the MVP.

[Fishercat]

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer Morneau was the best player in all of baseball when the Twins made their run. Liriano was gone for two months, Mauer got the hits and Morneau drove him in. Even Mauer said he was the MVP.

OK, I split the 2006 stats into a subsection

A. Post-ASB (when the Twins made most of their run)
B. Minimum of 200 PAs (more than a part-time player)
C. Sorted by OPS
D. AL Only

Care to guess where Justin Morneau ranks on that list? Hint, it's not first.

Just so you all don't have to go look it up, it was 15th. The following players were ahead of him

Ortiz, Hafner, Guerrero, Cano, Sexson, Teixeira, Guillen, Teahen, Dye, Thomas, Norton, Thome, Sizemore, A. Rodriguez

Other stats. BA (5th), OBP (12th), SLG (20th), HR (T-27), RBI (who he drove in) (4th, 2nd on his own team).

[Fishercat]

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer No because he lifted his team offensively and you admit that he deserved it just as much as everyone else.

I wouldn't admit that because I would be wrong.