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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:15 AM
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Giants: Mays, Bonds, Marichal

For shits and giggles: Bob Brenly, Chili Davis and John Burkett




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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:16 AM

More Padres: Rickey Henderson, Ken Caminitti, Bruce Hurst




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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:17 AM

Randy Jones, Greg Vaughn, Mark Davis

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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer View Post
Giants: Mays, Bonds, Marichal
The trivia question for the Padres broadcast today was "How many times has Juan Marichal finshed in the top 5 in cy young voting in his career?"

I was shocked to learn the answer was 0.


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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:28 AM

Always overlooked but most of his best years were before the Cy Young started. Six years with 20+ wins and no awards.




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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:33 AM

No Christy Mathewson for the Giants?
   
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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:36 AM

Are they doing the Expos and Nationals separately? or are they grouping the franchise together?


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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:37 AM

I would take Marichal over Mathewson. No Met Ott either




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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:38 AM

The top 2 Mets are easy, George Thomas Seaver, and Michael Joseph Piazza. Unfortunately, beyond that, the choice is tough. Alfonzo wasn't a big enough guy to be a franchise player, Doc wasn't the face of the team for a long enough time. Mookie was never an outstanding guy, but he was a fan favorite. Koosman was great and underrated, but was never the franchise guy, he was hidden behind Seaver. HoJo wasn't really that guy. So, the third spot comes down the Keith and his 'stache, Darryl, and John Franco. As much as I loved Johnny Franco, the homegrown Staten Island boy, I can't really pick him, because he was a big emotional leader, but had many of his best years in Cincy. Leaving me with Keith and Darryl, I'm torn. Darryl was great, and would have been among the best ever if he hadn't fallen into the stuff he did. I'm gonna have to choose Keith for the third spot, because the team improved from the moment he got here, he was the emotional leader of the team, and he was actually a very good media presence. He got over his alcohol and cocaine abuse, and is a much smarter man that he sound, and much smarter than people realize. He was the face of the 1986 team...


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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:40 AM

You posted an entire paragraph and didn't once mention Nolan Ryan?

I wouldn't put him in the Mets' top 3 due to his fame coming more with the Angels, Astros, and Rangers, but since you discussed a lot of Mets greats I'd think he'd have to fall somewhere in the discussion.


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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 03:42 AM

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You posted an entire paragraph and didn't once mention Nolan Ryan?

I wouldn't put him in the Mets' top 3 due to his fame coming more with the Angels, Astros, and Rangers, but since you discussed a lot of Mets greats I'd think he'd have to fall somewhere in the discussion.
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Re: Baseball Tonight's Top Players from each Franchise - 08-03-2008, 04:06 AM

Umm, considering he had only 1 winning season, and had only 2 years with an ERA below 3.50, in his 5 years with the Mets, I would not consider him even close.

Plus, I was naming the guys who were on the ballot on ESPN, not off the top of my head. If I had, I'd also have to include Tug McGraw, Ron Hunt, Lenny Dykstra, Bud Harrelson, Ed Kranepool, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.


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