Originally Posted by nyjunc
First off I am not saying Rodrigiuez isn't a top closer, there's no question he is BUT the save is an overrated stat. Sometimes the hard work is done by the setup guy, sometimes you have a 3 run lead and never hit any trouble. It can be an overrated stat, mariano is clearly the best closer of this generation but according to the save stat Hoffman is better and John Franco should be a HOFer. It can be misleading. All we have to do is look at this season, he's on a record setting pace while Mariano has only 22 yet mariano has pitched better than Rodriguez. By the way, the guy in 2nd place is george Sherrill w/ a 3.62 ERA and 1.26 WHIP.
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Getting the outs is the only thing that matters. Krod has been doing that at a record setting pace while pitching just as good as Rivera. Rivera is the best closer of his generation and that's not debatable but hoffman is right up there with them. The setup guy doesn;t do any work for the closer. The setup man is doing his job just as getting saves is the closer's job.