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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 08:11 PM

Or the fact that the Yankees mishandled Joba since no thinks otherwise.




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 08:24 PM

I think otherwise LTR. I would say that it seems to be working out quite well and thus I declare it a success.




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 08:30 PM

That's not the question. Question is did they mishandle it? It is working out well now and I haven't said different. Would you rather have Joba starting all year or half a year? Tim Lincecum seems to be doing just fine in his sophmore year. No one yet is saying they handled it perfectly.




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 08:51 PM

Well I kind of agree with you. I didn't really like Joba starting out pitching like 4 innings a start and then having to go to the pen. Starting at the beginning or stretching him out in the minors mid season would have made more sense i think.




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 08:53 PM

Thank you! An honest fan.




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 08:54 PM

i didn't say it was exactly the right decision. but it definitely wasn't a "fiasco"




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 09:05 PM

OK fiasco might have been the wrong word but it wasn't handled great.




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 09:38 PM

Jesus Christ, it was handled fine, you wanna waste him in the minors while some random scrub from AAA makes a couple starts? Thank god you're not the Yankees manager.




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 09:43 PM

A couple of starts? Joba missed how many starts? AAA starters have been starting all season. Maybe if Joba started starting in March this would have been handled better. It was not handled fine.




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 09:50 PM

Being that this is all coming from the guy who thought Joba was the closer of the future, Rivera should not have been re-signed, and talked about a David Riske-Joba late inning punch, your opinion really doesn't mean much.




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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 10:19 PM

It's pretty funny this is what we're arguing about. Considering Joba has a 2.4 ERA since his conversion with more than a strikeout per inning and a declining walk rate...sure..you know what? We did a horrible job rah rah rah bad bad bad bad

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Re: Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth - 07-30-2008, 10:26 PM

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What kind of "training" are we talking about? Some arm circles? Maybe some jumping jacks? Pitchers under 25 who throw over 20IP more in successive years have a higher risk of arm injuries, whether they do up downs in their backyard or not.
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