Yankees/Tigers swap Pudge for Farnsworth

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer Yes, I call the Joba situation a fiasco!! Would they have not been better off starting him in Spring Training? Maybe if they actually got a starter in the offseason or if they just started Joba when they shoudl have, they would be looking down on the Rays and Sox instead of looking up. It was not handled well either way you look at it.

That's your opinion. That doesn't make it a fiasco. Looks like it's actually turning out pretty well.

[love_that_reefer]

Jose had very little to do with the Angels winning but you're right he has a ring. Pudge has actually EARNED a ring and has more than 8 ABs in October.

[love_that_reefer]

Originally Posted by giantsfan5689 That's your opinion. That doesn't make it a fiasco. Looks like it's actually turning out pretty well.

It's my opinion that it could have been handled better? I think that's pretty much fact bro! It is turning out well NOW. Could be a lot better if they had him starting the whole time like I pointed out.

[ljshorty89]

Okay, but by your same argument against Manny, Pudge is old as ****. He's not the guy that's gonna make the difference for this team.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer It's my opinion that it could have been handled better? I think that's pretty much fact bro! It is turning out well NOW. Could be a lot better if they had him starting the whole time like I pointed out.

How is it a fact? We used him as a set up man for a good part of the beginning of the season, and it was huge for us. You can't know if it would be "better" unless you play out both situations which is impossible. So you can't call it a fact

[ljshorty89]

But the point was that the risk out weighed the reward. If he hadn't taken to starting right away, you wouldn't have been able to move him back to the bullpen. Hence, 90% of Yankee fans wanted them to either have done it in spring training, or wait till next spring training. You don't change a young guy's role mid season. They got lucky that a few weeks later he was NEEDED, or else they would have taken an unnecessary risk.

[perforatededge54]

Okay Reefer, we'll let Joba start the season in the rotation and throw 200 innings. Good idea. I'll bill you on the Tommy John or rotator cuff surgery. Sound fair?

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Originally Posted by perforatededge54 Okay Reefer, we'll let Joba start the season in the rotation and throw 200 innings. Good idea. I'll bill you on the Tommy John or rotator cuff surgery. Sound fair?

Exactly. Another reason why they didn't do it

[love_that_reefer]

Originally Posted by giantsfan5689 How is it a fact? We used him as a set up man for a good part of the beginning of the season, and it was huge for us. You can't know if it would be "better" unless you play out both situations which is impossible. So you can't call it a fact

It's fact that it could have been handled better than they did!! Find a person who thinks the Yankees handled it perfectly. Please find me one so I can call them a ****ing an idiot!

[ljshorty89]

But changing a guy's role mid-season INCREASES likelihood of injury...

[perforatededge54]

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer It's fact that it could have been handled better than they did!! Find a person who thinks the Yankees handled it perfectly. Please find me one so I can call them a ****ing an idiot!

You'd be insulting quite a few people big guy.

[love_that_reefer]

Originally Posted by perforatededge54 Okay Reefer, we'll let Joba start the season in the rotation and throw 200 innings. Good idea. I'll bill you on the Tommy John or rotator cuff surgery. Sound fair?

Yes because that's what always happens. Maybe if the Yankees decided he would start, Joba could have trained more in the offseason. Wait, that would be too easy. Kids don't know how to train these days.