Bye Bye Manny?

[love_that_reefer]

I think Manny could definitely be traded and he said today he would waive his no-trade rights. NY won't give him the money he's making now either. Not the Mets or the Yanks.

[ljshorty89]

Sounds unlikely he will even be traded at this point. But he won't be back in Boston next year either from what I hear.

[love_that_reefer]

I knew he wouldn't be back next year nor should he.

[nyjunc]

I'll believe it when I see it. We have been hearing this stuff for years and every time it happens Manny gets hot and it's forgotten about.

[ljshorty89]

The difference is he is only locked up for this year. So many experts are saying that he will be available for the right price. While I don't think he's going anywhere, I'm not so sure we should doubt it. Everyone is saying it's more serious than ever before. Plus, his high contract may allow him to clear waivers. At least according to one NL source quo0ted by Joel Sherman. So, who knows?

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer I knew he wouldn't be back next year nor should he.

I don't understand this. Why would Boston not want arguably their best hitter or the face of the franchise back? And why don't you think he should be? I guess it's just hard for me to picture Manny in anything but a Boston uni.

[ljshorty89]

They wouldn't want him back because they've finally gone past the breaking point. If you've heard Manny's quotes, he even said "they're tired of me and I'm tired of them." It's clear that neither party wants anything to do with the other. The Sox don't want his controversy. He shouldn't be stuck playing for a team that doesn't want him, especially when he doesn't wanna be there either. Make sense now?

[love_that_reefer]

Originally Posted by giantsfan5689 I don't understand this. Why would Boston not want arguably their best hitter or the face of the franchise back? And why don't you think he should be? I guess it's just hard for me to picture Manny in anything but a Boston uni.

$20 million dollars for a guy who isn't getting any better is a steep price to pay. That plus both sides hate each other. Manny is becoming DH material with each passing day and no one should pay him that much for his declining production. I'm sure the Red Sox can find someone else to hit 30 HRs, dribe in 100+ runs, talk on a cellphone during the game, puch down a 63 yr old man and sucker punch teammates for a lot less than $20 million per.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer $20 million dollars for a guy who isn't getting any better is a steep price to pay.

Originally Posted by love_that_reefer no one should pay him that much for his declining production.

ok, first of all, saying he's not getting better doesn't say anything. A-Rod isn't getting "better," but he's already at the top of his game, so they pay him.

second of all, his production is not declining. yes, he's not going to drive in 144 runs again or 45 home runs. But everyone has 1 or 2 career years, and just because he doesn't reach those again doesn't really mean his production is declining. He's got 19 homers this season and 66 RBI's. He's one homer short of tying last year's, and 22 RBI's from tying last years'. He is putting up very consistent numbers. I'd pay $20 mil for Manny in a heartbeat. You know exactly what you're getting. Consistency, and a little nincompoopery in the clubhouse. Big deal. So he talks on his cell during a pitching change. Sometimes you have to put up with a little nonsense for a great, clutch player like him.

[love_that_reefer]

First of all, never compare the 32 yr old to the 37 yr old. He's declining and there's no circling around that.

Second of all, you would pay $20 million but someone smart like Theo isn't going to and doesn't have to. Manny put up more than 1 or 2 years. He will be 37 next year and who needs a DH playing LF anyway? He's not the 30 HR/100 RBI guy so why pay like he is. Some of you keep living in the past instead of looking ahead. The Red Sox can go out and get Matt Holliday if they chose to and pay him less than what Manny is making and getting a more complete player in the process. Moving forward is what the Red Sox will do and let some other sucker pay Manny his $18 million and if it were up to you, the Yankees would be that sucker.

[NYgiantsfan5689]

wow. you really got personal there.....

[love_that_reefer]

No, just saying how I feel. I had to go through this shit with the Barry's when the Giants outbid themselves for Zito and Bonds. Its not smart to pay these guys the money they made.