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Fishercat · **Red Sox post high bid on Matsuzaka? -** 11-10-2006, 04:23 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2656687

Now, this could either be really good (blocking any other team from getting Mats, then lowballing him on a sensible long-term deal) or really bad (signing him to a huge deal as he blows out his arm).

Yikes.

love_that_reefer · 11-10-2006, 06:17 PM

Red Sox can afford him and really need him. Better get the deal done or else he goes back to Japan.

redsrbetter · 11-13-2006, 03:17 PM

per MLB Trade rumors:

rotoworld has an Orestes Destrade report for ESPN that claims the Red Sox won the Daisuke Matsuzaka bid for about $42MM. I think we can be pretty confident that the Lions will accept it.
The next step, of course, is getting him signed.

Awesome job BoSox!

GiantsFanatic · 11-13-2006, 04:46 PM

Nice, this kind of reminds me of what the Yankees did to the Bo-sox few years back by blocking a trade so the sox couldn't get Bartolo Colon.

websoulsurfer · 11-15-2006, 04:56 AM

$51 million is a lot just for the right to try to sign him. WOW!

Alot of us around SD are thinking they are just blocking the Yankees from getting him and wont be offering up the 12-15 million over 3 years that Boras is supposedly asking for him.

If I was the Red sox GM I wouldnt sign him unless he accepted at least a 5 year contract so that you could spread the $51.1 million over a longer period.

No matter what he signs for, he will be a $20+ million per year guy.

Its GOTTA be just Yankee blocking.

nyjunc · 11-15-2006, 08:36 AM

If they are just blocking the Yankees it's silly b/c he'll be a FA next year then the yanks would get him. I think they bid to sign him.

Fishercat · 11-15-2006, 09:11 AM

The Yanks bid around 32 million from what I heard, and with that large a bid and that foot in the Far East market, I can't see how they won't sign him. But I've been disappointed before.

missionhockey21 · 11-15-2006, 01:16 PM

They will sign him, supposedly the marketing effect that the BoSox and NESN will generate will severely lessen the effect of this bid for the right to negotiate with him. Just think about the kind of ties this will create between the Red Sox and Japan (fans and players alike.) This is a really good move for the Red Sox and one that will yet asgain, put them in further competition with the Yankees... this time, just across the sea.

McKain · 11-15-2006, 03:51 PM

Too bad they spent 51.1 million to build a bridge to Japan. Couldn't they just sign Masato Yoshii, Hideki Irabu, and Shigetoshi Hasegawa and done the same thing?

love_that_reefer · 11-15-2006, 04:30 PM

So let me get this straight because I am sort of confused. The bid of $51 million does not go to Matsuzaka but to the Lions. Now they have to fork over more money just to sign him?

McKain · 11-15-2006, 04:33 PM

Yep, and Matsuzaka's going to end up getting probably a 5/60 deal or something. Fun fun fun.

missionhockey21 · 11-15-2006, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by McKain

Too bad they spent 51.1 million to build a bridge to Japan. Couldn't they just sign Masato Yoshii, Hideki Irabu, and Shigetoshi Hasegawa and done the same thing?

.... bbbbut.. but the Yankees!

love_that_reefer · 11-15-2006, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by McKain

Yep, and Matsuzaka's going to end up getting probably a 5/60 deal or something. Fun fun fun.

I am sorry but unless this guy can throw 130 mph with a 92 mph changeup, no player is worth this much.

Fishercat · 11-15-2006, 05:29 PM

That change-up better be 29 MPH.

I really do like Matsuzaka as a player...but I wish it was an NL team to take the risk. It'll be a fun risk, but foreign import pitchers scare the crap out of me.

51.1 mil still stuns me. I'm hoping for something like 6/70 or something to slightly lower the AAV to...20 mil per year. '_'